Debate, don't attack

The author of "Olde Tyme Religion" said in a new letter that I had grievously impugned his spiritual and political integrity. Yep. That is because his first letter shows him to be a bigot and radical left-wing ideologue that attacks the spiritual and political beliefs of those with whom he disagrees using stereotypes, insults and falsehoods.

His arguments in this new letter are filled with errors, the most glaring of which is the logical fallacy of false generalization. For example, he says we should add to the list of the victims of Christianity “…20 million innocents killed by Hitler’s German Catholic and Lutheran soldiers…” Yes, some of Hitler’s soldiers were Christians. But they were also many other things: German, most likely Caucasian, and probably male. Christianity was not the cause of their atrocities any more than being German, Caucasian or male was.

Nazism was the root of their atrocities and it, like communism, was a purely secular political system that was hostile to religion in general and Christianity in particular. Christianity was not at fault in what happened, it was instead the atheist Nazi government led by Adolph Hitler that bears the blame.

This writer blames the death toll from the Anglo-American strategic bombing campaign of WWII on Christianity. This is even more far-fetched than his claim about Hitler’s Christian soldiers. Same with his claim about “Christian King Leopold” in the Congo.

He wraps up his letter by talking about the God of the Old Testament. Although it is great to hear an atheist make an argument in favor of Bible inerrancy, let me point out a very simple fact: What happened in the Old Testament isn’t the fault of Christians because there were no Christians at the time.

If the writer of these letters wants to have a rational discussion based on mutual respect, on facts, and on logic, about why a God that is good allows evil to happen in this world, I will debate him anywhere, anytime and in any format. If he just wants to shout insults and tell lies, he only continues to show that he is a bigot.

Forrest Edward Metz

Victorville

Seneca also said ...

Re: "Words of Wisdom," Daily Press, 7/3/17 ... Here's a few more quotes to ponder — and they, too, are by Seneca the Younger:

"We are more often frightened than hurt; and we suffer more from imagination than from reality."

"In war, when a commander becomes so bereft of reason and perspective that he fails to understand the dependence of arms on Divine guidance, he no longer deserves victory."

"It is true greatness to have in one the frailty of a man and the security of a god."

"The first step in a person's salvation is knowledge of their sin."

"God is the universal substance in existing things. He comprises all things. He is the fountain of all being. In Him exists everything that is."

And the best for last...

"I don't trust liberals, I trust conservatives."

Algot Stephenson

Apple Valley

Healthcare debate

It is shameful that we in the United States don’t have a viable national healthcare program for our citizens. We are one of the richest nations in the world and yet one of the few major industrialized nations without either affordable health insurance or medical care when needed for all citizens. Most without health insurance are living one diagnosis away from bankruptcy.

We give billions of dollars in financial assistance to other countries — I understand to over 90 percent of all the nations on the planet — but we never seem to be able to find, or agree upon, funding for a viable healthcare program. It seems like the well-being of our American citizens should take priority over other countries.

Sure, the Affordable Care Act (ACA — Obamacare) has its flaws, but instead of explaining the problems to the public and seeking bipartisan solutions to repair any flaws, too many in Congress just want to dump ACA and replace it with a new plan. Too many in our new Administration and Congress seem blinded by just wanting to reverse whatever the prior administration put in place. Also, the healthcare debate has simply become a proxy war for issues such as family planning and tax cuts for the wealthy. We seldom hear stories about the lives ACA has helped, or that states experiencing the worst problems with ACA are mostly the ones that refused to set up exchanges. It seems like the latter engaged in deliberately sabotaging the effort.

More than 20 million people could lose health insurance under the new House and Senate bills. This independent feels Democrats need to admit that Obamacare isn’t perfect, and Republicans should stop pursuing a replacement plan that is a disguise for a tax cut for the rich. Both sides need to work together better to repair the flaws of ACA.

David Hansen

Hesperia

Questions for candidates

What the Apple Valley Town Counsel need to ask and answers citizens need to know from the candidates to replace the City Manager are:

1) What is his/her plan to balance the town’s budget without raising taxes, fees, surcharges, and going further into debt? 2) What is his/her plan to eliminate the town’s unfunded employee pension fund liabilities? 3) Is he/she willing to accept the average salary and benefits of similar sized towns, cities, municipalities? 4) What, if any, are his/her objections to transparency and the town's citizens knowing what those plans are and the specifics of their implementation?

Doc Ron Dudick

Apple Valley

Crime and leadership

Tom Pinard's recent Valley Voices column of Sunday, June 25, mentions several Victor Valley leaders: Supervisor Robert Lovingood, Michael Stevens and Joseph Brady. They all have one thing in common: Great ideas and leadership ability. 0

Wouldn't it be nice to have these leaders or others like them in higher offices in the Victor Valley? Leaders who lead and are not afraid to take a stand and work for the community's betterment. I'm so tired of our do-nothing politicians who fill our state Assembly, state Senate seats and our US Congressman. They are doing nothing for us!

We deserve leadership, our fair share of state and federal tax dollars that we have paid for.

In 10 years or so our valley may reach a million people? We need a plan to get our roads ready for this. This will take the cooperation of every politician in our valley, from our City Councils to our state and federal politicians. If we don't wake up and get the right people in office quickly, our valley will be in big trouble and a horrible place to live!

We’re well under way to this happening. It's not too late to turn it around!

Bill Tuck Jr.

Phelan