Letter of rebuttal 

A flag is not sacred? Who the heck is the writer of a Dec. 7 letter kidding?

The flag of this country is sacred! It is the symbol of this great country and what it represents that makes it sacred. Try burning a cross and then say it is not sacred. Burn a copy of the Constitution and say it is not sacred. In fact, if you truly believe that the flag of these United States is not sacred, then you are welcome to leave it behind as you find another place that will let you speak your mind without repercussions.

If you believe you are right, you have no real concept of the meaning of the word sacred. Short story — If you are not willing to come home under the flag, you do not have the privilege of disrespecting it. Period.

Mike Henderson, Vietnam veteran

Yermo

A thought for Veterans Day

"It is the soldier, not the reporter,

Who has given us freedom of the press.

It is the soldier not the poet,

Who has given us freedom of speech.

It is the soldier, not not the campus organizer,

Who has given us the freedom to demonstrate.

It is the soldier,

Who salutes the flag,

Who serves beneath the flag and whose coffin is draped by the flag.

Who allows the protester to burn the flag."

— Father Denis Edward O'Brien, USMC

I would like to ask, how is OK to burn the flag, and claim freedom of speech, but it is not OK to destroy other icons such as the Lincoln Memorial? Which is more important?

Thank God this is America.

Bartolo Velazquez

Apple Valley

Electoral College is fair

The writer of a Dec. 7 letter seems to be upset with the "archaic electoral system" of voting in the United States. She also seems upset that the "electoral system created by men who owned slaves, didn't trust the common man to pick our leaders..?" Were not some of the Founding Fathers also Democrats?

As someone who after 30 years of living here as an immigrant, coming from a nation of one person, one vote, first past the post wins, didn't always understand the Electoral College, here's something for the writer to ponder:

There are 3,143 counties in the U.S. Trump won 3,084 of them. There are 62 counties in New York state. Trump won 46, Clinton 16. Clinton's popular vote count was 1.5 million more than Trump's. However, in the five counties that immediately surround New York City, Clinton got 2.5 million more votes than Trump. Those five counties represent 319 square miles. The United States is comprised of 3,797,000 square miles.

So would the writer, who I assume is a liberal progressive after denigrating the Founding Fathers and those she feels were duped, want to disenfranchise all those inhabitants of this great nation who took a peek behind the curtain for once? And although Trump's comments aren't always palatable, not one mention from the writer of the millions Clinton took from Qatar and Saudi Arabia, nations that really champion women's, gay and LGBT rights.

But, if the shoe fits...

Andrew Howard

Apple Valley

Flag burning

Flag burning should be a misdemeanor punishable by a fine, in my opinion. I do not equate this action with free speech. How far down the road of permissiveness do we have to go as Americans? Pretty soon the old ones like me will be gone, who remember seeing the newsreels in the movies and newspaper photos of ships upending at sea from being bombed or torpedoed and hearing about men dying in burning oil or drowning before another ship could get near. I was 11 when Japan attacked Pearl Harbor and that was my introduction to what war was.

Of course, vets are dying off at a fast clip. They lived the horror that I only learned about at home. None of us knew what to expect. The trains ran night and day, bringing our young men out here to be trained and shipped out. I lived less than 20 miles from our coast where we had air raid drills and bought blackout curtains for our windows and had wardens walk the streets telling people to shut off lights. The world wasn't safe anymore.

People didn't crab about having tires and gas and sugar and leather shoes rationed. They turned in their metal objects to be melted down for the war effort. As I walked to school I learned what it meant when the service star in a window was replaced by a gold star. I heard about five brothers going down on one ship. I couldn't imagine what that would be like for their parents, and I couldn't imagine having five gold stars in your window. Our flag was everywhere, it was a symbol of people united in effort and sacrifice.

That flag went to Germany and Japan after the war as we rebuilt those countries and set them off on a path where they could self govern. Even knowing a little history tells you that conquerors don't normally do that. As you could go somewhere else to live if you don't like this country, you also could choose to leave the flag alone and find some way to help accomplish another action that would make you feel effective.

I am the widow of a Korean War veteran.

Janet Turner

Apple Valley

Burn the American flag?

So, you think the men and women in uniform are fighting for and dying for your right to burn the American flag?

What twisted mentality! What an insult to parents, spouses and survivors of those who have given their lives to protect and defend our nation.

Why don't you go ahead and burn your Bible? It is your right and I'm sure if something prompts you to do so, then you will. By the way, the Bible says, "Do not use your liberty as a vice!" (1 Peter 2:16)

So many of our military men and women have literally lost their legs to fight for you. Yet, someone is made to look like a hero because he refuses to stand on his, because he feels oppressed. What kind of oppression does he feel anyway, with his millions? I wonder, is he using any of his financial gain to help the people who are suffering such oppression?

If he thinks there are not enough programs of entitlement in our country, then maybe he could donate to establish another.

He should at least give his legs to someone who would proudly, and gladly, use them to stand up in honor of our flag and country!

You have twisted and perverted freedom and liberty. You have become disrespectful, and you disregard the American flag, which so many take pride in and die for.

There will be a day of reckoning! Be ready for it, as you may lose more than your flag, freedom and your legs!

Carla Luse

Spring Valley Lake